I'm pretty sure that relationship was shoehorned in there after the producers found out the actor and possibly some of the writing staff were treating Garak as if he were gay, which they found unacceptable. We can also infer Garek's age based on his service records compared to Dukats and Damars. She and Garak were involved with each other while she was staying on the station. I think Kira summed it up pretty well in In Purgatory's Shadow (or possibly By Inferno's Light -- can't remember which of the two-parter) - she yearned for companionship with another Cardassian and clung naturally to someone who looked like her and wasn't a cruel bigot. Ziyal's name was Tora Ziyal (surnames are first in Bajoran culture). When Dukat found out Garak was seeing his daughter, he attempted to kill the tailor, who smiled at Dukat. Phoenix likes to play fetch, climb Christmas trees, and drown her toys in the water bowl! And she is an outcast half cardassian with just 1 person who looks like her around. Passed down from the time of Kahless, ten precepts have shaped Klingon culture andindoctrinated Klingons in the Way of the Warrior. That being said. A person in their 20's is an adult. While the crew of the Defiant forges an uneasy alliance with a strange alien species and struggles to deal with a potential genocidal civil war, Cardassian ambassador Natima Lang and Colonel Kira Nerys find the tensions rising and political ... Also sometimes relationships last, sometimes they are shorter. I'm sure age difference is probably nothing in the 23rd century but Ziyal is like 19 and Garak is very likely old enough to be her dad (plus just kind of a creep in general). Enter Garak. Ziyal is in the middle stages of early adulthood. That was always my vibe. Written sometime after June, 1996, when the episode "Body Parts" … How did he become one of their most trusted allies? And how did he find God in a bowl of soup? Answers to these and more questions about Book's past are uncovered in this original graphic novel by rising stars Zack Whedon (Dr. Rewatching season one recently and Garak's interaction with Bashir is pure flirtation. Andrew Robinson was born in New York and started his acting career in the 1960s. About 23 to 25 I'd presume. That all said, it's also good television so maybe the writers just didn't bother worrying about age gaps. He originally auditioned for the role of Odo on "Star Trek: Deep space 9" before landing the part of the recurring character Garak. I was shocked that Dukat seemed to age about 20 years when he was disguised as a Bajoran. And his governance ends at 2369, so that's one heck of a career as a government/military official. As the Federation and Cardassia Prime celebrate their strengthening ties and the Cardassian ambassador to the Federation arranges a glittering diplomatic reception, forces who oppose the alliance prepare to make their move. He got to the top spot by being the most cunning, part of that cunning was giving his opponents no familial openings to exploit. To insiders, it was a graduation. The author explores the question of why the members of Heaven's Gate committed ritual suicides, and examines the origin and evolution of the religion, its appeal, and practices. The Gamma Quadrant Sourcebook provides Gamemasters and Players with a wealth of information to aid in playing characters or running adventures set within the ever-expanding Star Trek universe. Sisko starts the battle by sending waves to Federation Peregrine Fighters to attack only Cardassian ships. Somewhere between 20 years until he is then exiled for betrayal in 2368. Ah, Mister Garak. Natima Lang Empok Nor Garak Tekeny Ghemor Mira Makbar Dejar Throughout its fifty-year history, the ‘starry sea’ has provided a familiar backdrop to an ongoing interrogation of what it means to be human. This book charts the developing Star Trek story from the 1960s through to the present day. Although the actor's revelation is not a canon source, fans cannot be said to have had absolutely no foundation or basis for speculation. Depends on if he was born before or after Tain's rise to the Order. While watching In The Pale Moonlight, my boyfriend and I discussed the possible age of Garak. Cliff's End docklands are rocked by a stunning tragedy: the legendary Pirate Queen has been murdered! Quark being forgetful of other types of relationship and totally ignoring the creep factor in age difference, isn’t she only like 13? this always bothered me, and i could never figure out why this romance was written into the story, it always made me uncomfortable whenever they had a scene together, am i the only one who was bothered by this? Summary: Molly O'Brien gets sick while Dax is babysitting and slips into a coma. Distinguish from Kardashian (real-world surname of Armenian origin). At least Marta looks 18-20? Cardassians don't crack. So probably older than 28. Also keep in mind that Dukat had a relationship with Kira's mother. These dates define a certain time in his life. He literally was a kid by US standards, and it's an interesting reversal of the usual age gap. Assuming Dukat took over his administrative role as Cardassian Prefect of Bajor when he was 40-something years old he could easily be in his 70's by the events of DS9. Tue Jun 17, 2014 3:00pm 60 comments 2 Favorites [+] “In Purgatory’s Shadow”. Julian sat with his knees raised, and placed his face into them with a groan. He definitely acts much more together than most younger men would and says things to Ziyal like "oh, an old man like me..." which, to me, indicates that he's playing up his age difference a bit even though it obviously exists as a point of tension. Young Damian Drooth puts his newly-acquired detective skills to the test when the daughter of a wealthy movie director is kidnapped from the set. Tain is pretty damn old, but not infirm. “After Mondrig’s men kicked them down. Heck, every relationship she had seemed sorta like a parental or sibling relationship. It's weird, and a little off putting, but calling her a child makes him sound like a pedophile. Well into to middle age from the way he spoke of his past I would imagine. The Official Reason: 'The recasting of Tora Ziyal was partly inspired by Ira Steven Behr having seen various actors play Felix Leiter in the official series of James Bond movies. I also tend to interpret Ziyal as having more of a brother/sister relationship with Garak due to their difference in age. Even though it wasn't returned, like Garak with Ziyal. I'm not the one to add this information, not having yet seen any Garak and Ziyal episodes, but I've read enough on the Net to know they exist! Of course, I don't recall many of her relationships outside of Garak, … Isn't Garak like 40-50 years old and Ziyal 20ish? Gul Skrain G. Dukat is the overall main antagonist in Star Trek: Deep Space Nine and is a high-ranking member of the Cardassian race (Gul is actually a title rather than part of his true name). I've heard this so many times and I 100% agree. Think late 50s in human terms. Morality Pet: Is this for Dukat. Even Bashir's response is very coy sexual awakening of someone unsure of their sexuality. All that being said, I love how something small can become so detailed when little canon information is given. (despite his incredible gayness with Bashir!)" We use cookies on our websites for a number of purposes, including analytics and performance, functionality and advertising. Now that fifty-year tale of warring ideologies, terrorism, greed, secret intelligence, moral compromises, and embattled faiths is at last given its due in the three-book saga of Star Trek's Lost Era. *** The romantic relationship between Garak and Ziyal tends to make a lot of modern viewers uncomfortable due to their age difference (Ziyal is about 18 and Garak is middle-aged.) In HOLLOW MEN the aftermath of those events is explored as Sisko returns to Earth to answer for his actions. But to his surprise, no one intends to punish him. Seems like about the same age gap as 90% of Hollywood relationships (real life and in movies/tv). Found insideRespect for women and for their right to make their own decisions in therapy permeates the text." --Choice "This book fills a gap in the literature addressed by no other publication I have seen. The Mirror Universe is a dark and twisted reflection of our own, where all that is noble and compassionate is instead cruel and barbaric. Garak pottered around peacefully, pulling a few weeds and deadheading some wilted flowers with the ruthlessness of the experienced gardener who knows that they will bloom again. While it would have been an interesting twist, the time line doesn't match. Denial of any children during that rise to power would also be a prudent move. Garak is like, mid 30s given his career stage and friendship with younger members of the crew. He is not even mysterious, just very annoying, very cocky, and very gay. Ziyal grew up with her mother for a little bit, so she couldn't have died at child birth. Template:In-universe The Cardassians are an extraterrestrial species in the Star Trek science fiction franchise. At least he was married in that one reality. Guidance to aid the Gamemaster in running missions and continuing voyages in the Delta Quadrant, with a selection of adventure seeds and Non-Player Characters. This book requires the Star Trek Adventures core rulebook to use. In most states, you are legally an adult when you turn 18. Elim said that if he was killed, it would only make Ziyal hate her own father, which would still mean Garak won in the end. They constantly threatened to kill each other during the series and hurled spiteful comments back and forth, but the series never detailed why they hated each other so much. Which ages Dukat a bit as Memory Alpha lists his affair with Kira Meru in 2346 and him informing Kira in 2374 (28 years later). Elim Garak was a Cardassian tailor and Promenade shopkeeper of Garak's Clothiers who lived on Deep Space 9. I just watched "For the Cause" and the entire time I was just getting really bad vibes. I always thought Jake and Ziyal would have been a nice couple. Garak is somewhat of a mystery. I think she had an infatuation with him, definitely, but I think he thought of her as more as a "fan" than a romance. Blasphemy. But the wisdom behind them was not won without a high cost in lives and latnium. Now at last these inspiring tales of avaricious Ferengi wresting monetary gain from the jaws of poverty are available to the profit-hungry across the galaxy! He worked with Starfleet during the Dominion War, returning to Cardassia Prime just prior to the Battle of Cardassia to help organize the Cardassian Liberation Front. Actually, in canon, while Ziyal cared for him, Garak ever saw Ziyal as a daughter, and was even a little puzzled by her affection. idk mate but having been teenaged girl I would've felt incredibly uncomfortable knowing that a 40+y/o man was staring at me the way he was looking at her during the springball game. Elim said that if he was killed, it would only make Ziyal hate her own father, which would still mean Garak won in … Nubian Queen is a fanfiction author that has written 26 stories for Dracula, Star Wars, StarTrek: Deep Space Nine, Harry Potter, Forever Knight, Labyrinth, Titanic, Stargate: Atlantis, Buffy: The Vampire Slayer, Terra Nova, Crimson Peak, Wings of Fire, Tui T. Sutherland, Pirates of the Caribbean, Originals, and Vampire Diaries. Same with Garak's mom. only a child compared to a middle aged or older man. I think as the only two Cardassians on the station, and both outcasts in Cardassian society to boot, I think it's pretty natural for them to find a certain sense of comfort in one another. You talk too much.Ikat'ika The Cardassians were a humanoid species from the Alpha Quadrant. As an agent of the Obsidian Order, Garak tortured and killed Dukat's father. Damour also looked older when the actor played as Siskos' psychiatric doctor during his apparent hallucinations as a unhinged writer scrawling the script of DS9 on his cell walls. More recently, Elim Garak/Kelas Parmak has gained in popularity following the publication of the spin-off novel series. They're aliens. Garak was very congenial and kind to her, but on his end, I don't think he let it get any further than friendship. Damn I was confident I was accurate but I will take your word that I was at fault there with the actress. How much more is there to suffer through? Operation Return, the mission to retake Deep Space Nine from the Dominion is now in full swing. A boy looks up. He sees a Cardassian's hand on his shoulder and knows that this is usually a prelude to a beating or, if he is fortunate enough, arrest. The boy knows how many disappeared during the Occupation of Bajor. Tain died after acknowledging that Garak was his son. The subreddit for everything Star Trek: Deep Space Nine! Even weirder is that Chase Masterson auditioned for that role, and Avery Brooks said "absolutely not". Press J to jump to the feed. First and foremost we don't know about the lifespan and maturation rate of Cardassian people. If nothing is added by the time Netflix catches me up on these episodes, I'll add them. However, I could argue there are plenty of people in the early 20's who still behave like children. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Missing Mom: Her mother died when the ship they were travelling in crashed on a Breen-controlled planet. In het, the most frequent partner is probably Tora Ziyal, but Garak occasionally gets paired with a variety of women including Keiko O'Brien and even Kai Opaka. Originally it looked like he just wanted to fuck with Dukat, but he honestly just seemed intrigued by her actual attempts to be nice and her lack of suspicion of him. Tora Ziyal. That, I thought, was obvious. However, in Andrew Robinson's character novel, Garak did feel attraction to both men and women and Word of God, from Robinson and writers, who saw him as being omnisexual. The rule against shallow content, including "No Joke Posts", might be of interest to you. Now that fifty-year tale of warring ideologies, terrorism, greed, secret intelligence, moral compromises, and embattled faiths is at last given its due in the three-book saga of Star Trek's Lost Era. Garak the most overated character ever. Your name: Rebecca Walz. Natima Lang, a Cardassian female (2370) Cardassians are like... timber wolves – predators... bold in large numbers... cautious by themselves... and with an instinctive need to establish a dominant position in any social gathering.Edward Jellico Cardassians are all alike. I think it's one of the richest character dynamics on any Star Trek series. This could help us calculate Garek's age. For more than twenty years, Keith R.A. DeCandido has told stories in a variety of universes and genres. Now, some of his finest short fiction is gathered here, plus some new, never-before-published tales of wonder. At age four, Garak and his father spent a day in the country together, their "only day" as Garak would later recall. Garak impressed his father by mounting a riding hound despite falling off numerous times. *, Press J to jump to the feed. Interestingly, Garek confronts her about plans to kill him, and she plays the 'strong independent woman' card and says that he can leave or stay but she doesnt need him. Nothing horrible. There's no guess as to how long Cardassians can have children. Found insideCATHERDRAL is a standalone novel in the Cradle of Darkness series culminating in an HEA. The horror prequel, Catacombs, will enrich the experience of this book but is not necessary. (151.152.101.44 19:36, 28 March 2008 (UTC)) Yes, Ziyal Definitely Needs to … The majority of Kirk's best moments tend to be in battle ("I'm a soldier, not a diplomat"), and the majority of Picard's tend to be in the court room. Who is to say how they would have ended up in the long run. About 23 to 25 I'd presume. Press J to jump to the feed. S.D. Perry's two-book sequence Avatar launched the new series of Deep Space Nine novels in 2001, capturing and expanding on the unique qualities of the television series and mixing new characters with old to acclaim from both critics and ... In Star Trek Chris Gregory analyses the reasons for the continuing success of the Star Trek phenomenon, traces its overall development and comments on how the differences between 1990s and 1960s series reflect changes in the mass media ... After the frontal lobe is fully developed it’s fine but before, just no. Still on Romulus in pursuit of his goal of reunifying the Vulcans and Romulans, Spock finds himself in the middle of a massive power struggle. I don't think prosthetic is an accurate measurement and we've seen some species with exceptionally short lifespans where they reach maturation at a fraction of a human's life. Towards the end I was getting an almost paternal vibe from them, and I think it would be interesting to see Garak in a father-figure role, but sadly I know that's not the direction their relationship takes. This could set up Garak to be much older than the postulated 40's. Garak, and his relationship with Bashir, evolved a lot on the show over the years. Obviously, the writers were picking up on something because they kept bringing you back for a reason. What are some of the things that you were injecting into your performance that you feel the writers started layering into your character? It's older man being nice flattered and young woman with romance fantasy. Please, Bashir's heart really belonged to O'brien. The 600 ride into the jaws of death, into the mouth of hell. As he told her, he's a Cardassian in exile, and she reminds him of home. William Riker, former first officer of the USS Enterprise in Star Trek: The Next Generation, takes command of the new USS Titan in this white-knuckled adventure perfect for longtime and new Star Trek fans. I mean, imagine being around folks who look nothing like you for weeks and having just 1 familiar face. Ultimately, this ends badly. Garak's not gay! A conclusion to the parallel-world series that began with Bitter Seeds finds British spy Raybould Marsh traveling to an alternate-dimension Earth in the early days of World War II to save one of the planet's timelines from alien invaders ...

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